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A3 1.8T quattro (but prob any Audi…) clutch??

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I’m getting a strange sound, I reckon from the clutch, of my A3 whenever I accelerate hard then change up… Most noticable is in 2nd gear, push the revs right up and then change gear. During the changeover I get a strange rubbing noise from then engine bay (poss. clutch area). Now, I can minimise this by STAMPING on the clutch pedal instead of the usual quick depression so I reckon it’s something to do with the clutch not disengaging properly. Has anyone any idea what could cause a clutch to release too slowly? The car is only about 18 months old, 13000 miles, and has been doing it since about 8000. The dealer of course pretends he can’t hear a thing but there’s certainly something up… Gimme some ammo please guys! LOL TIA Jem — Please remove engine when replying

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m getting a strange sound, I reckon from the clutch, of my A3 whenever > I accelerate hard then change up… Most noticable is in 2nd gear, push > the revs right up and then change gear. During the changeover I get a > strange rubbing noise from then engine bay (poss. clutch area). > Now, I can minimise this by STAMPING on the clutch pedal instead of the > usual quick depression so I reckon it’s something to do with the clutch > not disengaging properly. Has anyone any idea what could cause a clutch > to release too slowly? The car is only about 18 months old, 13000 miles, > and has been doing it since about 8000. The dealer of course pretends he > can’t hear a thing but there’s certainly something up… Gimme some ammo > please guys! LOL > TIA > Jem > — > Please remove engine when replying

A clutch is a clutch. It will engage and disengage undependent of revs. What is possible is the timing between pressing the clutch and shifting gears. As far as I know the A3 uses cables to shift and sometimes they do not work as precise as rods. When you disengage the motor will tilt a little -or a lot- this together with a stretched cable can give problems. Ronald — Outgoing mail is AVG certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m getting a strange sound, I reckon from the clutch, of my A3 whenever > I accelerate hard then change up… Most noticable is in 2nd gear, push > the revs right up and then change gear. During the changeover I get a > strange rubbing noise from then engine bay (poss. clutch area). > Now, I can minimise this by STAMPING on the clutch pedal instead of the > usual quick depression so I reckon it’s something to do with the clutch > not disengaging properly. Has anyone any idea what could cause a clutch > to release too slowly? The car is only about 18 months old, 13000 miles, > and has been doing it since about 8000. The dealer of course pretends he > can’t hear a thing but there’s certainly something up… Gimme some ammo > please guys! LOL > TIA > Jem > — > Please remove engine when replying > A clutch is a clutch. It will engage and disengage undependent of revs. What > is possible is the timing between pressing the clutch and shifting gears. > As far as I know the A3 uses cables to shift and sometimes they do not work > as precise as rods. When you disengage the motor will tilt a little -or a > lot- this together with a stretched cable can give problems. > Ronald

Maybe it does it at all revs but is only really noticable at higher revs? Hmmm, though what u’ve just said about cables and the motor tilting… Whereas I don’t think it’s the gear cables cos there is no problem selecting the gear, perhaps it could be that the clutch cable needs some adjustment… Does that make sense? I guess the engine will tilt more as there is more power being applied / released on gearchange at high revs and this might be making the engine tilt further. Though that doesn’t really answer why stamping hard on the pedal alleviates the noise. Thanks for your response! Jem > — > Outgoing mail is AVG certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > says… > > I’m getting a strange sound, I reckon from the clutch, of my A3 whenever > > I accelerate hard then change up… Most noticable is in 2nd gear, push > > the revs right up and then change gear. During the changeover I get a > > strange rubbing noise from then engine bay (poss. clutch area). > > Now, I can minimise this by STAMPING on the clutch pedal instead of the > > usual quick depression so I reckon it’s something to do with the clutch > > not disengaging properly. Has anyone any idea what could cause a clutch > > to release too slowly? The car is only about 18 months old, 13000 miles, > > and has been doing it since about 8000. The dealer of course pretends he > > can’t hear a thing but there’s certainly something up… Gimme some ammo > > please guys! LOL > > TIA > > Jem > > — > > Please remove engine when replying > A clutch is a clutch. It will engage and disengage undependent of revs. What > is possible is the timing between pressing the clutch and shifting gears. > As far as I know the A3 uses cables to shift and sometimes they do not work > as precise as rods. When you disengage the motor will tilt a little -or a > lot- this together with a stretched cable can give problems. > Ronald > Maybe it does it at all revs but is only really noticable at higher > revs? > Hmmm, though what u’ve just said about cables and the motor tilting… > Whereas I don’t think it’s the gear cables cos there is no problem > selecting the gear, perhaps it could be that the clutch cable needs some > adjustment… Does that make sense? I guess the engine will tilt more as > there is more power being applied / released on gearchange at high revs > and this might be making the engine tilt further. Though that doesn’t > really answer why stamping hard on the pedal alleviates the noise. > Thanks for your response! > Jem

The clutch AFAIK has no cables. BTW what do you mean by stamping hard on the pedal? You really must put it down to disengage. Good luck, Ronald > — > Outgoing mail is AVG certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > — > Please remove knickers when replying

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says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> revs? > Hmmm, though what u’ve just said about cables and the motor tilting… > Whereas I don’t think it’s the gear cables cos there is no problem > selecting the gear, perhaps it could be that the clutch cable needs some > adjustment… Does that make sense? I guess the engine will tilt more as > there is more power being applied / released on gearchange at high revs > and this might be making the engine tilt further. Though that doesn’t > really answer why stamping hard on the pedal alleviates the noise. > Thanks for your response! > Jem > The clutch AFAIK has no cables. BTW what do you mean by stamping hard on the > pedal? You really must put it down to disengage. > Good luck, > Ronald

Oh yes, of course I put it down to disengage, don’t worry, I’m not that mad ;-) I mean it seems to relate to how fast I push the pedal down – and no, I’m not some young inexperienced driver, I do know how to change gear :-D … by "stamping" I mean pretty much literally that, pushing the pedal to the floor as fast as is humanly possible, not just quick, but REALLY quick. Like, not the way you would usually drive. So if the clutch in the A3 has no cable… is it DBW as well? I thought that was just the brake / throttle. So perhaps, speed of disengagement could be related to some cylinder / hydraulic system that is perhaps leaking thus not operating properly? It had a new master cylinder on the clutch cos the original squeaked but I don’t think it’s related as I think the problem occurred before this was replaced. Jem > > — > > Outgoing mail is AVG certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > says… > > revs? > > Hmmm, though what u’ve just said about cables and the motor tilting… > > Whereas I don’t think it’s the gear cables cos there is no problem > > selecting the gear, perhaps it could be that the clutch cable needs some > > adjustment… Does that make sense? I guess the engine will tilt more as > > there is more power being applied / released on gearchange at high revs > > and this might be making the engine tilt further. Though that doesn’t > > really answer why stamping hard on the pedal alleviates the noise. > > Thanks for your response! > > Jem > The clutch AFAIK has no cables. BTW what do you mean by stamping hard on the > pedal? You really must put it down to disengage. > Good luck, > Ronald > Oh yes, of course I put it down to disengage, don’t worry, I’m not that > mad ;-) I mean it seems to relate to how fast I push the pedal down – > and no, I’m not some young inexperienced driver, I do know how to change > gear :-D … by "stamping" I mean pretty much literally that, pushing > the pedal to the floor as fast as is humanly possible, not just quick, > but REALLY quick. Like, not the way you would usually drive.

Didn’t mean to offend you > So if the clutch in the A3 has no cable… is it DBW as well? I thought > that was just the brake / throttle. So perhaps, speed of disengagement > could be related to some cylinder / hydraulic system that is perhaps > leaking thus not operating properly? > It had a new master cylinder on the clutch cos the original squeaked but > I don’t think it’s related as I think the problem occurred before this > was replaced.

It’s hydraulic of course and at fast gearshifting the timing is critical. Ronald – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Jem > > > — > > > Outgoing mail is AVG certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > — > Please remove knickers when replying

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> > Oh yes, of course I put it down to disengage, don’t worry, I’m not that > mad ;-) I mean it seems to relate to how fast I push the pedal down – > and no, I’m not some young inexperienced driver, I do know how to change > gear :-D … by "stamping" I mean pretty much literally that, pushing > the pedal to the floor as fast as is humanly possible, not just quick, > but REALLY quick. Like, not the way you would usually drive. > Didn’t mean to offend you

No, you didn’t… hence the smilies :-D > So if the clutch in the A3 has no cable… is it DBW as well? I thought > that was just the brake / throttle. So perhaps, speed of disengagement > could be related to some cylinder / hydraulic system that is perhaps > leaking thus not operating properly? > It had a new master cylinder on the clutch cos the original squeaked but > I don’t think it’s related as I think the problem occurred before this > was replaced. > It’s hydraulic of course and at fast gearshifting the timing is critical.

Given that I’m not leaking any hydraulic fluid anywhere, would you have any idea what component could be causing the problem then? Just a last ditch attempt cos you’ve pretty much concurred on my thoughts… ‘cept for the lack of clutch cable… Thanks for your help… Jem – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Ronald > Jem > > > > — > > > > Outgoing mail is AVG certified Virus Free. > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > — > Please remove knickers when replying > — > Outgoing mail is AVG certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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No I haven’t any more clues Jem beside the ones I gave. I had similar problems once when the tilting of the engine (in a Golf GTI) made quick shifting impossible. I had some time to kill today since I am leaving for China in an hour. Ronald

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Oh yes, of course I put it down to disengage, don’t worry, I’m not that > > mad ;-) I mean it seems to relate to how fast I push the pedal down – > > and no, I’m not some young inexperienced driver, I do know how to change > > gear :-D … by "stamping" I mean pretty much literally that, pushing > > the pedal to the floor as fast as is humanly possible, not just quick, > > but REALLY quick. Like, not the way you would usually drive. > Didn’t mean to offend you > No, you didn’t… hence the smilies :-D > > So if the clutch in the A3 has no cable… is it DBW as well? I thought > > that was just the brake / throttle. So perhaps, speed of disengagement > > could be related to some cylinder / hydraulic system that is perhaps > > leaking thus not operating properly? > > It had a new master cylinder on the clutch cos the original squeaked but > > I don’t think it’s related as I think the problem occurred before this > > was replaced. > It’s hydraulic of course and at fast gearshifting the timing is critical. > Given that I’m not leaking any hydraulic fluid anywhere, would you have > any idea what component could be causing the problem then? Just a last > ditch attempt cos you’ve pretty much concurred on my thoughts… ‘cept > for the lack of clutch cable… > Thanks for your help… > Jem > Ronald > > Jem > > > > > — > > > > > Outgoing mail is AVG certified Virus Free. > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 19-04-2002 > > — > > Please remove knickers when replying > — > Outgoing mail is AVG certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > — > Please remove knickers when replying

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> says… > So if the clutch in the A3 has no cable… is it DBW as well? I thought > that was just the brake / throttle. So perhaps, speed of disengagement > could be related to some cylinder / hydraulic system that is perhaps > leaking thus not operating properly?

The A3 definitely does not have a cable.  It is all hydraulically controlled.  I know this as I recently had problems with my clutch master cylinder.  The clutch pedal fell to the floor and although you could pull it up and it would stay there, the car was effectively undrivable. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> It had a new master cylinder on the clutch cos the original squeaked but > I don’t think it’s related as I think the problem occurred before this > was replaced.

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