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> The F-28 is a highly reliable plane which can take off and land on > very short runways. It therefore is the favourite plane of regional > airlines which service small airports.
I wouldn’t say THE favorite. If you really want to take a passenger jet into a tight space, what you need is a BAe 146 / Avro RJ. There are a large number of very small airports (London City, for example, or Aspen) where the BAe 146/Avro RJ is the ONLY jet authorized to operate. For more info, see http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2366/smiliner.html Stefano Pagiola — All opinions are my own. 850 N Randolph Str No.817, Arlington VA 22203, USA Check out my web site at http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2366/self.html Visit Smiliner: The BAe 146/Avro RJ site at http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2366/smiliner.html
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> Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents?
Undoubtfully, for international airlines, this award goes to Korean Airline (KAL) and Aeroflot … That two airlines has a lot of flying coffins… so, take care .. Ray
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The F-28 is a highly reliable plane which can take off and land on very short runways. It therefore is the favourite plane of regional airlines which service small airports. Do such airports attract more plane crashes than large ones? Also, the number of take-offs and landings would be greater than on a 737. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Speaking of crashes, does anybody know what makes the > F-28s crash so frequently???? Their ratio of crashes to > flights is much higher than other aircraft. I remember that > one bought the farm not to long ago in Uruguay and that > US had a slew of incidents with them over the years. >This more a question than an answer. Does the F28 have no leading-edge >slats, so a little ice in the wrong place can be Really Bad? I seem to >remember a similar situation with the DC9-10 (only). Since the "9" sits >so low, I remember seeing the pilots always feel the wing near the >leading edge during the walk-around. >Or is it my imagination? >Another anwer is that, being about the cheapest jet, the F28 falls into >the hands of the least competent operators. Old 737s would be cheap as >well, but they have relatively few crashes, considering how many there >are. > Bob C.
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appear as if it was written: >Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents?
First, define "most" and "accidents"! A few choices: Greatest number of hull losses. Greatest number of fatal incidents. Greatest number of incidents. All of the above, per year. All of the above, per flight (1 take-off, and sometimes 1 landing). All of the above, per passenger carried. All of the above, per passenger kilometer (or similar). And so on… But let’s just start with saying Qantas and Southwest aren’t it! >Jesper
Malc.
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> I think we should compare percentages of the the total flights from any > airline that don’t make it. That would be a fairer comparison wouldn’t it?
The old PanAm was in the old Aeroflot league back in the decade after they got the 707. However the record for "worst day" must belong to Capitol Airlines, before United took them over. One day they had to ask "Which crash?", if you called for info. Bob C.
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Your’e right, I meant the other way around…my mistake – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > There is no such thing as China Air! Pick China Airlines or Air China. > For your information. Air China has a solid safety record. Air China is > quite different to CAAC which was the only airline in China from way back. > It has since been broken up to many different individually operated > regional airline. And Air China has it’s base in Beijing. Flying Air China > and China Eastern is probably as safe as any other major western airlines. > China Airlines is the one that had a few crashes in recent years. > –Weiyun >The Mongolian carrier, MIAT has not had any crashes that I can >remember…at least in last 30 years…China air..meaning CAAC (China >Airline Always Crashes) is generally regarded as the most unsafe airline in >the world. Aeroflot has been broken into so many airlines that calling >Aeroflot dangerous (versus old Soviet Aeroflot) is not the same. >> Its a toss up between Air Mongolia, China Air and Aeroflot isn’t it? >> 
oes anyone know which airline has the most accidents? >> : >> :Jesper
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> Speaking of crashes, does anybody know what makes the > F-28s crash so frequently???? Their ratio of crashes to > flights is much higher than other aircraft. I remember that > one bought the farm not to long ago in Uruguay and that > US had a slew of incidents with them over the years.
This more a question than an answer. Does the F28 have no leading-edge slats, so a little ice in the wrong place can be Really Bad? I seem to remember a similar situation with the DC9-10 (only). Since the "9" sits so low, I remember seeing the pilots always feel the wing near the leading edge during the walk-around. Or is it my imagination? Another anwer is that, being about the cheapest jet, the F28 falls into the hands of the least competent operators. Old 737s would be cheap as well, but they have relatively few crashes, considering how many there are. Bob C.
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There is no such thing as China Air! Pick China Airlines or Air China. For your information. Air China has a solid safety record. Air China is quite different to CAAC which was the only airline in China from way back. It has since been broken up to many different individually operated regional airline. And Air China has it’s base in Beijing. Flying Air China and China Eastern is probably as safe as any other major western airlines. China Airlines is the one that had a few crashes in recent years. –Weiyun – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >The Mongolian carrier, MIAT has not had any crashes that I can >remember…at least in last 30 years…China air..meaning CAAC (China >Airline Always Crashes) is generally regarded as the most unsafe airline in >the world. Aeroflot has been broken into so many airlines that calling >Aeroflot dangerous (versus old Soviet Aeroflot) is not the same. > Its a toss up between Air Mongolia, China Air and Aeroflot isn’t it? > oes anyone know which airline has the most accidents? > : > :Jesper
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> Speaking of crashes, does anybody know what makes the > F-28s crash so frequently???? Their ratio of crashes to > flights is much higher than other aircraft. I remember that > one bought the farm not to long ago in Uruguay (snip)
You are incorrect, sir! The Uruguayan crash (which involved an Argentinean carrier) was a DC-9. Perhaps you are thinking of the TAM F.100 that crashed on takeoff at Sao Paulo a few years back… Mike
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The Mongolian carrier, MIAT has not had any crashes that I can remember…at least in last 30 years…China air..meaning CAAC (China Airline Always Crashes) is generally regarded as the most unsafe airline in the world. Aeroflot has been broken into so many airlines that calling Aeroflot dangerous (versus old Soviet Aeroflot) is not the same. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Its a toss up between Air Mongolia, China Air and Aeroflot isn’t it? > oes anyone know which airline has the most accidents? > : > :Jesper
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Speaking of crashes, does anybody know what makes the F-28s crash so frequently???? Their ratio of crashes to flights is much higher than other aircraft. I remember that one bought the farm not to long ago in Uruguay and that US had a slew of incidents with them over the years. Rich – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents? > Check out this site: > http://airsafe.com/ > Regards, > Andrew Laity
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I like that site. I found ntsb.gov gives the list of fatal Part 135 and Part 121 carrier crashes since 1982. It shows US as being the winner for jet crashes which led to fatalities (5). UA had four incidents – one was the CAT incident out of NRT and the other one was the fuselage failure out of HNL. PA, Eastern, and DL had three each… Rich – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents? > Check out this site: > http://airsafe.com/ > Regards, > Andrew Laity
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> Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents?
Check out this site: http://airsafe.com/ Regards, Andrew Laity
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I think we should compare percentages of the the total flights from any airline that don’t make it. That would be a fairer comparison wouldn’t it? –Weiyun – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >What do you all mean by crashes?? There have been >dozens – hundreds of crashes or "incidents" over the >years. Are we talking "plane falls from the sky and >people die" or "plane skids off the runway during takeoff/ >landing and people do/do not die" or "plane clips trees >on approach, ripping pieces of the plane off, but people >do not die" or ?????? >There were no major airline crashes which resulted in deaths >last year (in the U.S.), but there were plenty of planes which >sustained major damage through bad landings, bad >approaches, rejected/aborted take-offs, etc. >Rich > > Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents? > Probably one of the older, larger ones. More planes for more years > means more exposure which MAY mean more crashes. > Bob C.
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: Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents? China Air Lines.
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Its a toss up between Air Mongolia, China Air and Aeroflot isn’t it?
oes anyone know which airline has the most accidents? : :Jesper
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>Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents? >Jesper
US Airways, formerly US Air, has an, <ahem>, "interesting" safety record, shall we say.
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What do you all mean by crashes?? There have been dozens – hundreds of crashes or "incidents" over the years. Are we talking "plane falls from the sky and people die" or "plane skids off the runway during takeoff/ landing and people do/do not die" or "plane clips trees on approach, ripping pieces of the plane off, but people do not die" or ?????? There were no major airline crashes which resulted in deaths last year (in the U.S.), but there were plenty of planes which sustained major damage through bad landings, bad approaches, rejected/aborted take-offs, etc. Rich – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents? > Probably one of the older, larger ones. More planes for more years > means more exposure which MAY mean more crashes. > Bob C.
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> > Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents? > Check out this site: > http://airsafe.com/ > Regards, > Andrew Laity
Great site thanks. Its interesting not only to note the number of crashes each airline has had, but the reason for them too. Regarding the frequent crashes of F28’s, it’s hard to pinpoint A reason for the numbers. It shows a little of everything from engine failure to bad weather to midair. It looks like only 1 or 2 (from the reasons given on this site) could actually be attributed directly to the aircraft although, upon more detailed analysis, this could change.
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Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents? Jesper
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> Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents?
Probably one of the older, larger ones. More planes for more years means more exposure which MAY mean more crashes. Bob C.
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> The F-28 is a highly reliable plane which can take off and land on > very short runways. It therefore is the favourite plane of regional > airlines which service small airports.
I wouldn’t say THE favorite. If you really want to take a passenger jet into a tight space, what you need is a BAe 146 / Avro RJ. There are a large number of very small airports (London City, for example, or Aspen) where the BAe 146/Avro RJ is the ONLY jet authorized to operate. For more info, see http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2366/smiliner.html Stefano Pagiola — All opinions are my own. 850 N Randolph Str No.817, Arlington VA 22203, USA Check out my web site at http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2366/self.html Visit Smiliner: The BAe 146/Avro RJ site at http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2366/smiliner.html
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> Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents?
Undoubtfully, for international airlines, this award goes to Korean Airline (KAL) and Aeroflot … That two airlines has a lot of flying coffins… so, take care .. Ray
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The F-28 is a highly reliable plane which can take off and land on very short runways. It therefore is the favourite plane of regional airlines which service small airports. Do such airports attract more plane crashes than large ones? Also, the number of take-offs and landings would be greater than on a 737. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Speaking of crashes, does anybody know what makes the > F-28s crash so frequently???? Their ratio of crashes to > flights is much higher than other aircraft. I remember that > one bought the farm not to long ago in Uruguay and that > US had a slew of incidents with them over the years. >This more a question than an answer. Does the F28 have no leading-edge >slats, so a little ice in the wrong place can be Really Bad? I seem to >remember a similar situation with the DC9-10 (only). Since the "9" sits >so low, I remember seeing the pilots always feel the wing near the >leading edge during the walk-around. >Or is it my imagination? >Another anwer is that, being about the cheapest jet, the F28 falls into >the hands of the least competent operators. Old 737s would be cheap as >well, but they have relatively few crashes, considering how many there >are. > Bob C.
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appear as if it was written: >Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents?
First, define "most" and "accidents"! A few choices: Greatest number of hull losses. Greatest number of fatal incidents. Greatest number of incidents. All of the above, per year. All of the above, per flight (1 take-off, and sometimes 1 landing). All of the above, per passenger carried. All of the above, per passenger kilometer (or similar). And so on… But let’s just start with saying Qantas and Southwest aren’t it! >Jesper
Malc.
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> I think we should compare percentages of the the total flights from any > airline that don’t make it. That would be a fairer comparison wouldn’t it?
The old PanAm was in the old Aeroflot league back in the decade after they got the 707. However the record for "worst day" must belong to Capitol Airlines, before United took them over. One day they had to ask "Which crash?", if you called for info. Bob C.
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Your’e right, I meant the other way around…my mistake – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > There is no such thing as China Air! Pick China Airlines or Air China. > For your information. Air China has a solid safety record. Air China is > quite different to CAAC which was the only airline in China from way back. > It has since been broken up to many different individually operated > regional airline. And Air China has it’s base in Beijing. Flying Air China > and China Eastern is probably as safe as any other major western airlines. > China Airlines is the one that had a few crashes in recent years. > –Weiyun >The Mongolian carrier, MIAT has not had any crashes that I can >remember…at least in last 30 years…China air..meaning CAAC (China >Airline Always Crashes) is generally regarded as the most unsafe airline in >the world. Aeroflot has been broken into so many airlines that calling >Aeroflot dangerous (versus old Soviet Aeroflot) is not the same. >> Its a toss up between Air Mongolia, China Air and Aeroflot isn’t it? >> oes anyone know which airline has the most accidents? >> : >> :Jesper
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> Speaking of crashes, does anybody know what makes the > F-28s crash so frequently???? Their ratio of crashes to > flights is much higher than other aircraft. I remember that > one bought the farm not to long ago in Uruguay and that > US had a slew of incidents with them over the years.
This more a question than an answer. Does the F28 have no leading-edge slats, so a little ice in the wrong place can be Really Bad? I seem to remember a similar situation with the DC9-10 (only). Since the "9" sits so low, I remember seeing the pilots always feel the wing near the leading edge during the walk-around. Or is it my imagination? Another anwer is that, being about the cheapest jet, the F28 falls into the hands of the least competent operators. Old 737s would be cheap as well, but they have relatively few crashes, considering how many there are. Bob C.
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There is no such thing as China Air! Pick China Airlines or Air China. For your information. Air China has a solid safety record. Air China is quite different to CAAC which was the only airline in China from way back. It has since been broken up to many different individually operated regional airline. And Air China has it’s base in Beijing. Flying Air China and China Eastern is probably as safe as any other major western airlines. China Airlines is the one that had a few crashes in recent years. –Weiyun – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >The Mongolian carrier, MIAT has not had any crashes that I can >remember…at least in last 30 years…China air..meaning CAAC (China >Airline Always Crashes) is generally regarded as the most unsafe airline in >the world. Aeroflot has been broken into so many airlines that calling >Aeroflot dangerous (versus old Soviet Aeroflot) is not the same. > Its a toss up between Air Mongolia, China Air and Aeroflot isn’t it? > oes anyone know which airline has the most accidents? > : > :Jesper
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> Speaking of crashes, does anybody know what makes the > F-28s crash so frequently???? Their ratio of crashes to > flights is much higher than other aircraft. I remember that > one bought the farm not to long ago in Uruguay (snip)
You are incorrect, sir! The Uruguayan crash (which involved an Argentinean carrier) was a DC-9. Perhaps you are thinking of the TAM F.100 that crashed on takeoff at Sao Paulo a few years back… Mike
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The Mongolian carrier, MIAT has not had any crashes that I can remember…at least in last 30 years…China air..meaning CAAC (China Airline Always Crashes) is generally regarded as the most unsafe airline in the world. Aeroflot has been broken into so many airlines that calling Aeroflot dangerous (versus old Soviet Aeroflot) is not the same. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Its a toss up between Air Mongolia, China Air and Aeroflot isn’t it? > oes anyone know which airline has the most accidents? > : > :Jesper
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Speaking of crashes, does anybody know what makes the F-28s crash so frequently???? Their ratio of crashes to flights is much higher than other aircraft. I remember that one bought the farm not to long ago in Uruguay and that US had a slew of incidents with them over the years. Rich – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents? > Check out this site: > http://airsafe.com/ > Regards, > Andrew Laity
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I like that site. I found ntsb.gov gives the list of fatal Part 135 and Part 121 carrier crashes since 1982. It shows US as being the winner for jet crashes which led to fatalities (5). UA had four incidents – one was the CAT incident out of NRT and the other one was the fuselage failure out of HNL. PA, Eastern, and DL had three each… Rich – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents? > Check out this site: > http://airsafe.com/ > Regards, > Andrew Laity
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> Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents?
Check out this site: http://airsafe.com/ Regards, Andrew Laity
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I think we should compare percentages of the the total flights from any airline that don’t make it. That would be a fairer comparison wouldn’t it? –Weiyun – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >What do you all mean by crashes?? There have been >dozens – hundreds of crashes or "incidents" over the >years. Are we talking "plane falls from the sky and >people die" or "plane skids off the runway during takeoff/ >landing and people do/do not die" or "plane clips trees >on approach, ripping pieces of the plane off, but people >do not die" or ?????? >There were no major airline crashes which resulted in deaths >last year (in the U.S.), but there were plenty of planes which >sustained major damage through bad landings, bad >approaches, rejected/aborted take-offs, etc. >Rich > > Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents? > Probably one of the older, larger ones. More planes for more years > means more exposure which MAY mean more crashes. > Bob C.
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: Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents? China Air Lines.
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Its a toss up between Air Mongolia, China Air and Aeroflot isn’t it?
oes anyone know which airline has the most accidents? : :Jesper
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>Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents? >Jesper
US Airways, formerly US Air, has an, <ahem>, "interesting" safety record, shall we say.
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What do you all mean by crashes?? There have been dozens – hundreds of crashes or "incidents" over the years. Are we talking "plane falls from the sky and people die" or "plane skids off the runway during takeoff/ landing and people do/do not die" or "plane clips trees on approach, ripping pieces of the plane off, but people do not die" or ?????? There were no major airline crashes which resulted in deaths last year (in the U.S.), but there were plenty of planes which sustained major damage through bad landings, bad approaches, rejected/aborted take-offs, etc. Rich – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents? > Probably one of the older, larger ones. More planes for more years > means more exposure which MAY mean more crashes. > Bob C.
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> > Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents? > Check out this site: > http://airsafe.com/ > Regards, > Andrew Laity
Great site thanks. Its interesting not only to note the number of crashes each airline has had, but the reason for them too. Regarding the frequent crashes of F28’s, it’s hard to pinpoint A reason for the numbers. It shows a little of everything from engine failure to bad weather to midair. It looks like only 1 or 2 (from the reasons given on this site) could actually be attributed directly to the aircraft although, upon more detailed analysis, this could change.
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Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents? Jesper
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> Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents?
Probably one of the older, larger ones. More planes for more years means more exposure which MAY mean more crashes. Bob C.
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> The F-28 is a highly reliable plane which can take off and land on > very short runways. It therefore is the favourite plane of regional > airlines which service small airports.
I wouldn’t say THE favorite. If you really want to take a passenger jet into a tight space, what you need is a BAe 146 / Avro RJ. There are a large number of very small airports (London City, for example, or Aspen) where the BAe 146/Avro RJ is the ONLY jet authorized to operate. For more info, see http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2366/smiliner.html Stefano Pagiola — All opinions are my own. 850 N Randolph Str No.817, Arlington VA 22203, USA Check out my web site at http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2366/self.html Visit Smiliner: The BAe 146/Avro RJ site at http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2366/smiliner.html
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> Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents?
Undoubtfully, for international airlines, this award goes to Korean Airline (KAL) and Aeroflot … That two airlines has a lot of flying coffins… so, take care .. Ray
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The F-28 is a highly reliable plane which can take off and land on very short runways. It therefore is the favourite plane of regional airlines which service small airports. Do such airports attract more plane crashes than large ones? Also, the number of take-offs and landings would be greater than on a 737. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Speaking of crashes, does anybody know what makes the > F-28s crash so frequently???? Their ratio of crashes to > flights is much higher than other aircraft. I remember that > one bought the farm not to long ago in Uruguay and that > US had a slew of incidents with them over the years. >This more a question than an answer. Does the F28 have no leading-edge >slats, so a little ice in the wrong place can be Really Bad? I seem to >remember a similar situation with the DC9-10 (only). Since the "9" sits >so low, I remember seeing the pilots always feel the wing near the >leading edge during the walk-around. >Or is it my imagination? >Another anwer is that, being about the cheapest jet, the F28 falls into >the hands of the least competent operators. Old 737s would be cheap as >well, but they have relatively few crashes, considering how many there >are. > Bob C.
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appear as if it was written: >Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents?
First, define "most" and "accidents"! A few choices: Greatest number of hull losses. Greatest number of fatal incidents. Greatest number of incidents. All of the above, per year. All of the above, per flight (1 take-off, and sometimes 1 landing). All of the above, per passenger carried. All of the above, per passenger kilometer (or similar). And so on… But let’s just start with saying Qantas and Southwest aren’t it! >Jesper
Malc.
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> I think we should compare percentages of the the total flights from any > airline that don’t make it. That would be a fairer comparison wouldn’t it?
The old PanAm was in the old Aeroflot league back in the decade after they got the 707. However the record for "worst day" must belong to Capitol Airlines, before United took them over. One day they had to ask "Which crash?", if you called for info. Bob C.
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Your’e right, I meant the other way around…my mistake – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > There is no such thing as China Air! Pick China Airlines or Air China. > For your information. Air China has a solid safety record. Air China is > quite different to CAAC which was the only airline in China from way back. > It has since been broken up to many different individually operated > regional airline. And Air China has it’s base in Beijing. Flying Air China > and China Eastern is probably as safe as any other major western airlines. > China Airlines is the one that had a few crashes in recent years. > –Weiyun >The Mongolian carrier, MIAT has not had any crashes that I can >remember…at least in last 30 years…China air..meaning CAAC (China >Airline Always Crashes) is generally regarded as the most unsafe airline in >the world. Aeroflot has been broken into so many airlines that calling >Aeroflot dangerous (versus old Soviet Aeroflot) is not the same. >> Its a toss up between Air Mongolia, China Air and Aeroflot isn’t it? >> oes anyone know which airline has the most accidents? >> : >> :Jesper
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> Speaking of crashes, does anybody know what makes the > F-28s crash so frequently???? Their ratio of crashes to > flights is much higher than other aircraft. I remember that > one bought the farm not to long ago in Uruguay and that > US had a slew of incidents with them over the years.
This more a question than an answer. Does the F28 have no leading-edge slats, so a little ice in the wrong place can be Really Bad? I seem to remember a similar situation with the DC9-10 (only). Since the "9" sits so low, I remember seeing the pilots always feel the wing near the leading edge during the walk-around. Or is it my imagination? Another anwer is that, being about the cheapest jet, the F28 falls into the hands of the least competent operators. Old 737s would be cheap as well, but they have relatively few crashes, considering how many there are. Bob C.
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There is no such thing as China Air! Pick China Airlines or Air China. For your information. Air China has a solid safety record. Air China is quite different to CAAC which was the only airline in China from way back. It has since been broken up to many different individually operated regional airline. And Air China has it’s base in Beijing. Flying Air China and China Eastern is probably as safe as any other major western airlines. China Airlines is the one that had a few crashes in recent years. –Weiyun – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >The Mongolian carrier, MIAT has not had any crashes that I can >remember…at least in last 30 years…China air..meaning CAAC (China >Airline Always Crashes) is generally regarded as the most unsafe airline in >the world. Aeroflot has been broken into so many airlines that calling >Aeroflot dangerous (versus old Soviet Aeroflot) is not the same. > Its a toss up between Air Mongolia, China Air and Aeroflot isn’t it? > oes anyone know which airline has the most accidents? > : > :Jesper
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> Speaking of crashes, does anybody know what makes the > F-28s crash so frequently???? Their ratio of crashes to > flights is much higher than other aircraft. I remember that > one bought the farm not to long ago in Uruguay (snip)
You are incorrect, sir! The Uruguayan crash (which involved an Argentinean carrier) was a DC-9. Perhaps you are thinking of the TAM F.100 that crashed on takeoff at Sao Paulo a few years back… Mike
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The Mongolian carrier, MIAT has not had any crashes that I can remember…at least in last 30 years…China air..meaning CAAC (China Airline Always Crashes) is generally regarded as the most unsafe airline in the world. Aeroflot has been broken into so many airlines that calling Aeroflot dangerous (versus old Soviet Aeroflot) is not the same. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Its a toss up between Air Mongolia, China Air and Aeroflot isn’t it? > oes anyone know which airline has the most accidents? > : > :Jesper
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Speaking of crashes, does anybody know what makes the F-28s crash so frequently???? Their ratio of crashes to flights is much higher than other aircraft. I remember that one bought the farm not to long ago in Uruguay and that US had a slew of incidents with them over the years. Rich – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents? > Check out this site: > http://airsafe.com/ > Regards, > Andrew Laity
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I like that site. I found ntsb.gov gives the list of fatal Part 135 and Part 121 carrier crashes since 1982. It shows US as being the winner for jet crashes which led to fatalities (5). UA had four incidents – one was the CAT incident out of NRT and the other one was the fuselage failure out of HNL. PA, Eastern, and DL had three each… Rich – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents? > Check out this site: > http://airsafe.com/ > Regards, > Andrew Laity
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> Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents?
Check out this site: http://airsafe.com/ Regards, Andrew Laity
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I think we should compare percentages of the the total flights from any airline that don’t make it. That would be a fairer comparison wouldn’t it? –Weiyun – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >What do you all mean by crashes?? There have been >dozens – hundreds of crashes or "incidents" over the >years. Are we talking "plane falls from the sky and >people die" or "plane skids off the runway during takeoff/ >landing and people do/do not die" or "plane clips trees >on approach, ripping pieces of the plane off, but people >do not die" or ?????? >There were no major airline crashes which resulted in deaths >last year (in the U.S.), but there were plenty of planes which >sustained major damage through bad landings, bad >approaches, rejected/aborted take-offs, etc. >Rich > > Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents? > Probably one of the older, larger ones. More planes for more years > means more exposure which MAY mean more crashes. > Bob C.
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: Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents? China Air Lines.
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Its a toss up between Air Mongolia, China Air and Aeroflot isn’t it?
oes anyone know which airline has the most accidents? : :Jesper
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>Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents? >Jesper
US Airways, formerly US Air, has an, <ahem>, "interesting" safety record, shall we say.
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What do you all mean by crashes?? There have been dozens – hundreds of crashes or "incidents" over the years. Are we talking "plane falls from the sky and people die" or "plane skids off the runway during takeoff/ landing and people do/do not die" or "plane clips trees on approach, ripping pieces of the plane off, but people do not die" or ?????? There were no major airline crashes which resulted in deaths last year (in the U.S.), but there were plenty of planes which sustained major damage through bad landings, bad approaches, rejected/aborted take-offs, etc. Rich – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents? > Probably one of the older, larger ones. More planes for more years > means more exposure which MAY mean more crashes. > Bob C.
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> > Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents? > Check out this site: > http://airsafe.com/ > Regards, > Andrew Laity
Great site thanks. Its interesting not only to note the number of crashes each airline has had, but the reason for them too. Regarding the frequent crashes of F28’s, it’s hard to pinpoint A reason for the numbers. It shows a little of everything from engine failure to bad weather to midair. It looks like only 1 or 2 (from the reasons given on this site) could actually be attributed directly to the aircraft although, upon more detailed analysis, this could change.
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Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents? Jesper
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> Does anyone know which airline has the most accidents?
Probably one of the older, larger ones. More planes for more years means more exposure which MAY mean more crashes. Bob C.