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I just got this from a reliable source.. Xxxx Company has just emailed me: Xxxx is no longer making guitars in Vietnam. It seems the moisture of the country created problems with neck shrinkage and as a result many v seriers guitars developed sharp frets. Pt

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>I just got this from a reliable source.. >Xxxx Company has just emailed me: >Xxxx is no longer making guitars in Vietnam. It seems the moisture of >the country created problems with neck shrinkage and as a result many >v seriers guitars developed sharp frets. >Pt

Why don’t you tell us the company name? And where are they moving the production facility — to a drier climate in, say, Central China?

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Dillion I presume.

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>Well, at least you know the body routing was good. Those guys can dig a >tunnel like nobody’s business.

LOL!!

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Why don’t you tell us the company name? And where are they moving the production facility — to a drier climate in, say, Central China? India???

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> Zionist racist fence threatening Palestinian university Sep 28, > 2003, 12:26 Occupied Jerusalem –

Hey Abu Alfalfa, if the Palestinians didn’t send over so many racist suicide bombers, then there wouldn’t be any fence in the first place!  Meanwhile, I’m not excessively impressed by the fact that you also consider Tel Aviv to be "occupied territory". > the Zionist segregationist fence.

Would you consider the Great Wall of China to be a "segregationist wall", Abu Alfalfa?  The Chinese had a problem with barbarian hordes too! P.S.  It’s spelled I-S-R-A-E-L (or in Arabic as ‘alif-hamzah, sin, ra, ‘alif, ya-hamza, ya, lam, if your ignorance extends that far — إسرائيل to view the Arabic spelling as part of an HTML page). — Hamas motto: لا إله لهم إلا        الموت،

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> There are muslims world wide who regard al-Qaida as the only opposition to > American "occupation" in the ME-puppet governments- and Israeli occupation > of palestine.

True. Bloody fools, if you ask me. Puppet governments? Here’s a list of Muslim-majority countries whose governments the US *doesn’t* like: Talibannie Afghanistan Libya Syria & Lebanon Iran Yemen Somalia Mauretania Chad Northen Nigeria’ Sudan Arafat’s Palestine Saddam’s Iraq And here’s a list of the most illiberal or dysfunctional governments of Mulsim majority countries: Talibannie Afghanistan Saudi Arabia Libya Syria & Lebanon Iran Yemen Somalia Mauretania Chad Northern Nigeria Sudan Arafat’s Palestine Saddam’s Iraq Algeria Do we detect a pattern there? Or, to put it another way, the Muslim-majority countries the US *does* like are: Turkey Morocco Jordan Kuwait Qatar Pakistan (up to a point) Bangladesh Egypt And the most liberal Muslim-majority countries – the ones which allow the greatest freedom of speech, prevent the worst excesses of the fanatics, allow TV stations like al-Jazeera to flourish etc. etc. – are: Turkey Morocco Jordan Kuwait Qatar Pakistan (up to a point) Bangladesh Well whaddya know? So the golden rule seems to be, if your country is friendly with the USA, or democratic countries in general, chances are you’ll have a fair amount of freedom and justice. If not, then not. Exceptions are: Egypt (not liberal enough – but under extreme duress from the Muslim League), Algeria (likewise, in spades, vis-a-vis Salafi terrorists. And the French are involved anyway) and Saudi Arabia. Ah, yes, Saudi Arabia. Something will have to be done about that … As for Israel: I have lost count of the number of abusive emails and accusations of anti-semitism I’ve had for saying that the treatment of the Palestinians by the Likud is no better than the treatment of Jews in Germany in the early years of Nazi rule. I think a crime is being perpetrated on them. I also think that a minority of Palestinians are conniving in the perpetration of that crime, and that the majority of Israelis (who did not vote for the Likud) should not be found responsible. In short, both sides are as bad, or good, as each other. You’re right: the Americans should get off their collective duff and sort it out. …and when they do, here’s a guarantee: it won’t make the slightest bit of difference to the Islamists (al-Qaeda and friends). They mean for *all* the Jews, pagans, infidels and ‘hypocrites’ in the ‘Islamic world’ (which, in case you haven’t realised, includes Spain and Portugal, the Balkans, India, Burma and western China, at a minimum) to be driven into the sea, if not ‘converted’, and those who immorally support their ideology without posessing the courage to take up arms will soon find some other imagined injury or insult to hate us for. The creation of a democratic Palestine is a necessary start to reducing the mistrust, if not anger, in the middle east. But it won’t stop the terrorism – if anything, it will increase it. > Yup, around the time it started making serious concessions to the > Wahabis – started allowing them to send out their ‘religious police’ > volunteers, and infect the Saudi school system with their ideology. > Supposition?

No. > Saudi Arabia is getting poorer. There can’t be a direct connection > between that and the rise of Islamism, but there is an idirect one > IMO. > Saudi is getting poorer because half its population is immigrant workers and > there has been little investment in projects for locals.

Absolutely. Of course. But where has the money gone? Not all of it has been sent to Osama’s cave as protection money (so to speak) – a great deal has been blown in the casinos and brothels of Mayfair and Monte Carlo – but one hell of a lot of it has. Without Saudi petrodollars al-Qaeda wouldn’t have had half the money it had to pay for 9/11, Bali etc., is my guess, and Osama would have been just another penniless Yemeni, or at best a normal middle class foreign language student in London or New York. > Local reformers have been pushing for democracy for years, ignored by the US > and now as anti-americanism gathers the reformers are being replaced by > extremists.

Oh, tosh. Look, you can certainly blame the US for pandering to the regime in Saudi – and not just the US; the UK and Europe, India and the Arab League have all done the same – but the quashing of political reform was all al-Fahd’s own work. They cut a deal with their own internal Wahabi opposition: we’ll let you run your own ‘moral police force’ and your own madrassas – and we’ll even let you export them abroad (like to Pakistan, where in an interview last week one of the new al-Qaeda-supporting regional governors admitted that their sole purpose was to ‘brainwash’ boys of 10-12 [i.e. so that anything they subsequently learn will not erase their desire to be part of the 'cause']) – just so long as you don’t incite the populace to rise up and drag us from our jewelled bedchambers and hang us from the local minarets (or whatever). Why do you think they banned bin Laden? Their days are numbered anyway, but it’s far too late to think about democracy in Saudi Arabia – without the Saud dynasty there *is* no Saudi Arabia. It’s the sheikhs or the imams; nothing inbetween. And that is *not* the fault of the west. That has been the condition in that part of the world for 1,400 years. [snip] > > > We’ve just seen how, at the first sign of perceived American weakness > > > (the withdrawl of its troops from Arabia) al-Qaeda strikes (killing > > > mostly Muslims of course; nobody ever accused them of intelligence). > > You been in Arabia or still share cropping? > Not Saudi, but Egypt, and what the hell is that supposed to mean? > Your reference to intelligence was a joke?

No. al-Qaeda (which is really a catch-all name for any Islamist terrorist group) state that they are fighting the infidel on behalf of Muslims everywhere. Yet they invariably end up killing more Muslims than any infidel has, other than in war (and even then those wars invariably end up saving the lives of other Muslims). And when they’re not killing Muslims they’re killing black Africans in their hundreds or Balinese Hindus. They are contemptuopus f human life, in other words. This is not intelligent. Tactically, they are clever – they have switched their fight to the ‘borders’ of the Islamic world, to places like Morocco or Kenya or Bali, where contact with the infidel is greatest and Islam is set to spread – but strategically, they are playing a very dangerous game. These attacks will make non-Muslims in those areas detest ordinary Muslims, who do not deserve to be detested, and by devestating the tourist industries of these countries will make them more dependent on western aid. And my guess (and this was confirmed by a Saudi journalist on TV the other day) is that the Saudi bomb was a response to the US troops withdrawl, which they must have perceived as weakness. Actually, it was a sign of strength (the US are strong enough in the region now not to need the Saudis) and will probably frighten the Saudi regime into helping the US even more. But … we’ll see. One thing’s for sure – they know they can’t come into the open. > It was a primary demand of bin Laden, troops are leaving, what has he to

Yes (although he killed mostly Muslims). But he’s *always* wanted westerners ‘out’. He chose that time to bomb Riyadh because he thought the US had ‘given up’ on the Saudis. The reason the US left Saudi is because they’ve got better accomodation lined up in Iraq. If the US appear to go cold on the Saudi regime it may shock them into offering more help (like banking details – who’s been sending money to whom, and where). That bombing has just given them another little shock in the same direction (and the Moroccan government too). al-Qaeda are very good on the big symbolic gestures, but lousy on the geopolitics. They think the west hasn’t the heart to fight; will give up and go home. They could be right of course – it really depends on American public opinion – but I don’t believe there is any lack of will to fight them. More like a lack of interest, as long as they are ‘only’ killing the poor. And if the US *does* give up on the Saudi regime – thus winning the support of liberals everywhere, naturally – and al-Qaeda stage a revolt and win the oil fields, and Kuwait and the little Sheikhdoms fall into a mass paroxysm of panic – why, what a *wonderful* opportunity for the Americans to roll in the tanks again, and blow their utterly illegal, non-UN recognised ‘government’ all to bits! They couldn’t plan it better. And then watch the Arabian peninsula get carved up into manageable bite-sized chunks (just like the British never quite got round to doing). Surely al-Qaeda aren’t as dumb as all THAT? > Iraq has been devastated, first by sanctions and now by war,

Whoa, WHOA! Time out! Surely something is missing there. Iraq has been devastated by … who? … There’s a name missing there. … Go on, it’ll come to you. Begins with ‘S’ ….. Sad… Sadd … Go on, see if you can finish it … Sadda … m. Saddam! That’s it! Well done. Yes, Iraq has been devestated by SADDAM. > Iraquis will be > thinking about Iraq not al-Qaida`s war.No Saddam,no Americans, hopefully, > they will rebuild.

Sorry, nice of you to jump on board the Saddam Out bandwagon, but the ‘no Saddam’ part of that equation is mutually exclusive of the ‘no American’ part. You can have one, but not both. > If America tries to influence Iraqui developement, come > back al-Quaida.

…followed by BANG BANG goodbye al-Qaeda, thanks for raising your heads above the parapet. Hopefully. This is a … read more »

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> > We’ve known for years now that Saudi Arabia is in effect the > > fundraiser for Islamist terrorism. > Evidence or you got it from Fox? > There is some evidence, yes (I don’t watch Fox). al-Qaeda must be > getting its money from somewhere, and it definitely isn’t me.

There are muslims world wide who regard al-Qaida as the only opposition to American "occupation" in the ME-puppet governments- and Israeli occupation of palestine. >  We also know that preciosu litle of > > its oil wealth filters down to the ordinary Saudi people, > Had the highest standard of living in the middle East up to 1990. > Yup, around the time it started making serious concessions to the > Wahabis – started allowing them to send out their ‘religious police’ > volunteers, and infect the Saudi school system with their ideology.

Supposition? > Saudi Arabia is getting poorer. There can’t be a direct connection > between that and the rise of Islamism, but there is an idirect one > IMO.

Saudi is getting poorer because half its population is immigrant workers and there has been little investment in projects for locals.  I wouldn’t be surprised if the Saudi regime is busy filtering off > petrodollars in the expectation that any time soon they are going to > have to make a dash for the border with a thousand screaming fanatics > on their tail. This tends to be what happens when you appease the bad > guys.

Local reformers have been pushing for democracy for years, ignored by the US and now as anti-americanism gathers the reformers are being replaced by extremists. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> and we can > > be pretty certain that had Iraq developed its oil reserves (with > > French and Russian help) even less of te wealtha ccrued would have > > filtered down to the Iraqi people. > You are not sure about anything, you are developing the plot as you go along > True. I’m just thinking aloud. And spelling really badly. > > Instead, a new source of funding for terrorism would be established, > > making the chances for all-out war between democracy and theocracy > > even more likely. > Saddam wanted a secular empire, he the proud leader, > True. > Bin laden wanted a unified islamic Middle East, > True – though it seems he’s probably still alive. > There was no connection > No direct connection, no. But those with memories which go back > further than Bush’s election will know that once upon a time the > al-Fahds wanted to be the proud leaders of the Arab people. They > started to appease the fanatics and now they are suffering bomb > attacks while their country’s economy goes tits up and they are forced > to rely on infidel armies to keep themselves safe. > Saddam was already cutting deals with al-Ansar, the home-grown version > of al-Qaeda, and Hamas (and really, there is no difference – none of > these groups are formal organisations). Whose to say he wouldn’t have > tried to tame the same big beast that did for the Sheikhs? You? Is > that what you’re saying? > Just good yankee propaganda. > Uh-huh. Whatever. > I try really hard to restrict my attacks on an ideology, which I call > ‘Islamism’ (extremist political Islam), which I perceive to be an > extremely dangerous totalitarian creed with which we are at war. I > don’t mean to or want to attack Muslims, or Arabs, both of which on a > personal level I generally like. By the same token, there is a lot > about the present American administration I detest. I certainly don’t > trust them, even if I think, in their attitudes towards Islamist > terrorism, they are correct. However much I dislike them I would not > want to expand my attack to the American people, who on a personal > level I generally like. > If you want to, that’s up to you. But if you simultaneously seek to > deplore nationalist hatred or racism when it is directed against Arabs > (if you do, I don’t know) while encouraging it when it is directed > against Americans, you are a hypocrite and a liar. > > With Iraq’s oil in the hands of a western-friendly, probably > > democratic, government, we should at least have avoided that fate. Now > > perhaps we should look to the world’s greatest supply of oil, in > > Saudi. > You are going to lose it when your favourite arse licker the Saudi family > are ousted. > I hope they are ousted. They are corrupt and weak and undemocratic. I > don’t wish them any personal harm, but I think their time will soon be > up in Saudi. > > We’ve just seen how, at the first sign of perceived American weakness > > (the withdrawl of its troops from Arabia) al-Qaeda strikes (killing > > mostly Muslims of course; nobody ever accused them of intelligence). > You been in Arabia or still share cropping? > Not Saudi, but Egypt, and what the hell is that supposed to mean?

Your reference to intelligence was a joke? I > was quoting a Saudi journalist (that the Riyadh bombing was a response > to the American troops withdrawl, because al-Qaeda perceive it as a > sign of weakness). You think you know better?

It was a primary demand of bin Laden, troops are leaving, what has he to > Does it occur to you, it is not your oil. > Yes. Does it occur to you that it is not the property of the ruling > regime in Saudi or the former ruling regime in Iraq? In which case, > who is to ensure that the wealth it accrues is spent on the nation as > a whole, and not on the enrichment of the regime in power – or for the > regime-in-exile in the Hindu Kush? Not the Americans? OK, I’ll go with > that – i don’t entirely trust them either – then who?

Iraq has been devastated, first by sanctions and now by war, Iraquis will be thinking about Iraq not al-Qaida`s war.No Saddam,no Americans, hopefully, they will rebuild. If America tries to influence Iraqui developement, come back al-Quaida. The extremists are a minority, they become a smaller minority if you separate them from the majority, America cannot understand that, continues to push and threaten, continue to support Israel and garner support for the likes of al-Qaida. And its good morning from me. Alan  UK

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> > We’ve known for years now that Saudi Arabia is in effect the > fundraiser for Islamist terrorism. > Evidence or you got it from Fox?

There is some evidence, yes (I don’t watch Fox). al-Qaeda must be getting its money from somewhere, and it definitely isn’t me. >  We also know that preciosu litle of > its oil wealth filters down to the ordinary Saudi people, > Had the highest standard of living in the middle East up to 1990.

Yup, around the time it started making serious concessions to the Wahabis – started allowing them to send out their ‘religious police’ volunteers, and infect the Saudi school system with their ideology. Saudi Arabia is getting poorer. There can’t be a direct connection between that and the rise of Islamism, but there is an idirect one IMO. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Saudi regime is busy filtering off petrodollars in the expectation that any time soon they are going to have to make a dash for the border with a thousand screaming fanatics on their tail. This tends to be what happens when you appease the bad guys. > and we can > be pretty certain that had Iraq developed its oil reserves (with > French and Russian help) even less of te wealtha ccrued would have > filtered down to the Iraqi people. > You are not sure about anything, you are developing the plot as you go along

True. I’m just thinking aloud. And spelling really badly. > Instead, a new source of funding for terrorism would be established, > making the chances for all-out war between democracy and theocracy > even more likely. > Saddam wanted a secular empire, he the proud leader,

True. > Bin laden wanted a unified islamic Middle East,

True – though it seems he’s probably still alive. > There was no connection

No direct connection, no. But those with memories which go back further than Bush’s election will know that once upon a time the al-Fahds wanted to be the proud leaders of the Arab people. They started to appease the fanatics and now they are suffering bomb attacks while their country’s economy goes tits up and they are forced to rely on infidel armies to keep themselves safe. Saddam was already cutting deals with al-Ansar, the home-grown version of al-Qaeda, and Hamas (and really, there is no difference – none of these groups are formal organisations). Whose to say he wouldn’t have tried to tame the same big beast that did for the Sheikhs? You? Is that what you’re saying? > Just good yankee propaganda.

Uh-huh. Whatever. I try really hard to restrict my attacks on an ideology, which I call ‘Islamism’ (extremist political Islam), which I perceive to be an extremely dangerous totalitarian creed with which we are at war. I don’t mean to or want to attack Muslims, or Arabs, both of which on a personal level I generally like. By the same token, there is a lot about the present American administration I detest. I certainly don’t trust them, even if I think, in their attitudes towards Islamist terrorism, they are correct. However much I dislike them I would not want to expand my attack to the American people, who on a personal level I generally like. If you want to, that’s up to you. But if you simultaneously seek to deplore nationalist hatred or racism when it is directed against Arabs (if you do, I don’t know) while encouraging it when it is directed against Americans, you are a hypocrite and a liar. > With Iraq’s oil in the hands of a western-friendly, probably > democratic, government, we should at least have avoided that fate. Now > perhaps we should look to the world’s greatest supply of oil, in > Saudi. > You are going to lose it when your favourite arse licker the Saudi family > are ousted.

I hope they are ousted. They are corrupt and weak and undemocratic. I don’t wish them any personal harm, but I think their time will soon be up in Saudi. > We’ve just seen how, at the first sign of perceived American weakness > (the withdrawl of its troops from Arabia) al-Qaeda strikes (killing > mostly Muslims of course; nobody ever accused them of intelligence). > You been in Arabia or still share cropping?

Not Saudi, but Egypt, and what the hell is that supposed to mean? I was quoting a Saudi journalist (that the Riyadh bombing was a response to the American troops withdrawl, because al-Qaeda perceive it as a sign of weakness). You think you know better? > Does it occur to you, it is not your oil.

Yes. Does it occur to you that it is not the property of the ruling regime in Saudi or the former ruling regime in Iraq? In which case, who is to ensure that the wealth it accrues is spent on the nation as a whole, and not on the enrichment of the regime in power – or for the regime-in-exile in the Hindu Kush? Not the Americans? OK, I’ll go with that – i don’t entirely trust them either – then who?

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Does anyone know what proportion of Saudi Arabia’s oil wealth is spent > > on Islamic ‘charities’ close to al-Qaeda, and other terrorist groups? > > We’ve known for years now that Saudi Arabia is in effect the > > fundraiser for Islamist terrorism. > Evidence or you got it from Fox? > There is ample evidence, reported by even left wing rags like the Guardian, > telling the story of SA’s involvement in developing fundamentalism outside > their borders. SA is one of the more fundamentalist countries in the

region. You are saying the statement is true, no evidence of . – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Saddam wanted a secular empire, he the proud leader, > He wanted a little more than that.  He was also interested in destroying > Israel.  When things started to go bad for him after 91 he maintained his > popular base by appealing to Islamic sensibilities.  He engaged a propoganda > campaign portraying him as a pious muslim. > Bin laden wanted a unified islamic Middle East, > There was no connection > Just good yankee propaganda. > The connection is the unification of Arabs into a greater empire.  One for a > united Caliphate, the other for a greater socialist empire.  I don’t really > know what the effective difference would have been. > > We must assume that if American troops are pulled out of any of the > > Gulf states, or Iraq, the same thing will happen there. If those > > troops ever go back in to Saudi Arabia, should it be to isolate its > > oil fields from the regime, so that the wealth they represent can be > > liberated from the terrorist fundraisers? > Does it occur to you, it is not your oil. > Well, we found it and pump it.  It may not be ‘ours’, I don’t think anybody > really thinks it is, however it is nice to know that the wealth derived from > our technology and demand is not being used against us.

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> Does anyone know what proportion of Saudi Arabia’s oil wealth is spent > on Islamic ‘charities’ close to al-Qaeda, and other terrorist groups? > We’ve known for years now that Saudi Arabia is in effect the > fundraiser for Islamist terrorism. > Evidence or you got it from Fox?

There is ample evidence, reported by even left wing rags like the Guardian, telling the story of SA’s involvement in developing fundamentalism outside their borders. SA is one of the more fundamentalist countries in the region. > Saddam wanted a secular empire, he the proud leader,

He wanted a little more than that.  He was also interested in destroying Israel.  When things started to go bad for him after 91 he maintained his popular base by appealing to Islamic sensibilities.  He engaged a propoganda campaign portraying him as a pious muslim. > Bin laden wanted a unified islamic Middle East, > There was no connection > Just good yankee propaganda.

The connection is the unification of Arabs into a greater empire.  One for a united Caliphate, the other for a greater socialist empire.  I don’t really know what the effective difference would have been. > We must assume that if American troops are pulled out of any of the > Gulf states, or Iraq, the same thing will happen there. If those > troops ever go back in to Saudi Arabia, should it be to isolate its > oil fields from the regime, so that the wealth they represent can be > liberated from the terrorist fundraisers? > Does it occur to you, it is not your oil.

Well, we found it and pump it.  It may not be ‘ours’, I don’t think anybody really thinks it is, however it is nice to know that the wealth derived from our technology and demand is not being used against us.

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> Does anyone know what proportion of Saudi Arabia’s oil wealth is spent > on Islamic ‘charities’ close to al-Qaeda, and other terrorist groups? > We’ve known for years now that Saudi Arabia is in effect the > fundraiser for Islamist terrorism.

Evidence or you got it from Fox?  We also know that preciosu litle of > its oil wealth filters down to the ordinary Saudi people,

Had the highest standard of living in the middle East up to 1990. and we can > be pretty certain that had Iraq developed its oil reserves (with > French and Russian help) even less of te wealtha ccrued would have > filtered down to the Iraqi people.

You are not sure about anything, you are developing the plot as you go along > Instead, a new source of funding for terrorism would be established, > making the chances for all-out war between democracy and theocracy > even more likely.

Saddam wanted a secular empire, he the proud leader, Bin laden wanted a unified islamic Middle East, There was no connection Just good yankee propaganda. > With Iraq’s oil in the hands of a western-friendly, probably > democratic, government, we should at least have avoided that fate. Now > perhaps we should look to the world’s greatest supply of oil, in > Saudi.

You are going to lose it when your favourite arse licker the Saudi family are ousted. > We’ve just seen how, at the first sign of perceived American weakness > (the withdrawl of its troops from Arabia) al-Qaeda strikes (killing > mostly Muslims of course; nobody ever accused them of intelligence).

You been in Arabia or still share cropping? > We must assume that if American troops are pulled out of any of the > Gulf states, or Iraq, the same thing will happen there. If those > troops ever go back in to Saudi Arabia, should it be to isolate its > oil fields from the regime, so that the wealth they represent can be > liberated from the terrorist fundraisers?

Does it occur to you, it is not your oil. > And what kind of guarantees should we have that none of the oil wealth > Iraq will create in years tocome finds its way to al-Qaeda coffers?

You have abviously swallowed al the crap the Bush Oil Co have fed you.

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Does anyone know what proportion of Saudi Arabia’s oil wealth is spent on Islamic ‘charities’ close to al-Qaeda, and other terrorist groups? We’ve known for years now that Saudi Arabia is in effect the fundraiser for Islamist terrorism. We also know that preciosu litle of its oil wealth filters down to the ordinary Saudi people, and we can be pretty certain that had Iraq developed its oil reserves (with French and Russian help) even less of te wealtha ccrued would have filtered down to the Iraqi people. Instead, a new source of funding for terrorism would be established, making the chances for all-out war between democracy and theocracy even more likely. With Iraq’s oil in the hands of a western-friendly, probably democratic, government, we should at least have avoided that fate. Now perhaps we should look to the world’s greatest supply of oil, in Saudi. We’ve just seen how, at the first sign of perceived American weakness (the withdrawl of its troops from Arabia) al-Qaeda strikes (killing mostly Muslims of course; nobody ever accused them of intelligence). We must assume that if American troops are pulled out of any of the Gulf states, or Iraq, the same thing will happen there. If those troops ever go back in to Saudi Arabia, should it be to isolate its oil fields from the regime, so that the wealth they represent can be liberated from the terrorist fundraisers? And what kind of guarantees should we have that none of the oil wealth Iraq will create in years tocome finds its way to al-Qaeda coffers?

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Dixie Chicks’ manager Simon Renshaw has told radio stations currently boycotting the group’s music that the uproar has been ginned up by the Web site FreeRepublic.com, the Cincinnati Enquirer reported Tuesday. [...] "Your company is being targeted by a radical right-wing online forum," Renshaw complained in an e-mail distributed to radio stations by the Dixie Chicks’ label, Sony Music. "You are being ‘Freeped,’ which is the code word for an organized e-mail/telephone effort attempting to solicit a desired response," he explained. Oh, hell, just read about it yourself: http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2003/3/19/101319 Freep

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The " Dixie Pigs" aren’t getting anything they didn’t ask for. They should open their mouths to sing and keep them SHUT about subjects over their heads.

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I guess it’s over your head since you made no statement except to "don’t question authority" even if it’s an illegitimate authority going into an undeclared war in your name with your tax dollars. Don’t ask questions. Keep your blinders on at all times. Believe everything your government tells you. Disregard your rights of freedom of speech. War is good for the economy. War is good for re-elections. All those furners deserve to die. Worship the (made in slave labor China) flag – pollute the country. Learn the truth from watching television. The U$A is never wrong. GW Bush is a moron, but the US population prefers morons instead of sensible intelligent leaders. Go Duhbya! You rule, dude! Anyone against the war is a liberal anti-American communist welfare loving loafer American-hating freedom-hating rights-hating city slicker who thinks they know better than everyone else. Bring back the Feudal System. I want to be a serf. We should never tax the rich. They gives us those fulfilling minimum wage jobs. Death to all non-Americans. If you have the color of mystery meat, you don’t belong in the US of A. Kill unborn babies by dropping bombs on their mothers. Only carpet-bombers have the right to life. Let the democrats raise taxes so the republicans can spend it by blowing things up. Be ready to forfeit all your rights and freedoms for more security. Swallow ALL government propaganda. Only the government knows what’s good for you. Prove your manhood. Get as many guns as you can. Be sure to homeskool your children. Ask God to kill all of those towelheads and tell Him if he doesn’t, you will. Engage in double standards. That way you can have your way either way. Justify in your own mind preemptive striking is a good thing. Kill your neighbor before he accidently runs over your dog. Join the police state. Bend over for martial law. It’s the best way for civil obedience. Lock up anyone suspicious of anything, even if they agree with you. Think in terms of non sequitor. That way you can convince yourself you win every argument with any subversive. Ask God to give you a brain. You need one.

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> Dixie Chicks’ manager Simon Renshaw has told radio stations currently > boycotting the group’s music that the uproar has been ginned up by the Web > site FreeRepublic.com, the Cincinnati Enquirer reported Tuesday.

What a goob.  Must be getting worried about his paycheck! I can guarantee you that the folks in the Republic of Texas did their complaining and boycotting all on their own. Nevertheless, it’s always cool to find out there’s a verb named after you!

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Dixie Chicks’ manager Simon Renshaw has told radio stations currently > boycotting the group’s music that the uproar has been ginned up by the Web > site FreeRepublic.com, the Cincinnati Enquirer reported Tuesday. > What a goob.  Must be getting worried about his > paycheck! > I can guarantee you that the folks in the Republic > of Texas did their complaining and boycotting all > on their own. > Nevertheless, it’s always cool to find out there’s > a verb named after you!

Oh, to be sure. I don’t know how long FreeRepublic has been at it, but I have been going by Freep for 7 years. They sound like a good outfit, but *I* didn’t know who they were until somebody posted it here. As to the Dixie Chicks, I just found out that this isn’t the first time ill-advised position-broadcasting has gotten them in trouble with their fans. Apparently, word got out a few years ago that they would be doing an anti-fur ad for PETA. Their publicist at the time (no word if it’s the same guy as now) had to cancel the ad and deny the word, all in a big hurry. So you’d think they would have learned their lesson. But, apparently, nope. Freep

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>They should open their mouths to sing and keep them SHUT about subjects >over their heads.

So we’re going to war to guarantee the Iraqis freedom of speech but YOU want to deny that right to Americans…….

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>>They should open their mouths to sing and keep them SHUT about subjects >over their heads. > So we’re going to war to guarantee the Iraqis freedom of speech but YOU want to > deny that right to Americans…….

Are you sure you aren’t Stretch Armstrong? Because you stretch things in your attempts to make your point farther than anyone I’ve known who got beyond middle school.

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I’m making a cd jacket out of that for a gag gift.

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4. Always check yourself in the mirror after a trip to the ladies’ room.

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I’ve got to run an underground water supply pipe to a barn about 200 ft from the house. I’ve got a 4′ deep trench dug and need to know what kind of line to use. I’m hoping to use some kind of flexible hose. Anyone have any idea about what kind of hose I need? Thanks! Ed

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>I’ve got to run an underground water supply pipe to a barn about 200 >ft from the house. I’ve got a 4′ deep trench dug and need to know what >kind of line to use. I’m hoping to use some kind of flexible hose. >Anyone have any idea about what kind of hose I need? Thanks! Ed

Any home center or plumbing supply house can help you with that. The stuff you’re looking for comes in 100′ rolls, in a variety of sizes. For a 200′ run, you probably should use 1" or 1-1/4". — alphageek/at/milmac/dot/com Stop Partial-birth Abortion NOW! End religious persecution in China – boycott Chinese goods. Ted Kennedy’s car has killed more people than my gun.

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Will it always be under pressure?

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Interesting article about how china orders planes, and the fact that it will likely split ist orders between Boeing (36 737s recently ordered), Airbus (up to 50 expected) and Russia (some new competitor to the 757 with Rolls engines !). http://public.wsj.com/sn/y/SB998325251353892099.html

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>Airbus (up >to 50 expected) and Russia (some new competitor to the 757 with Rolls engines >!).

Well, if ever there was a country that needs financing-at-incredible-terms! As for the Tu-204 (the 757’ski), it has been under development since at least 1986.  Not exactly new. -Erik

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>Interesting article about how china orders planes, and the fact that it will >likely split ist orders between Boeing (36 737s recently ordered), Airbus (up >to 50 expected) and Russia (some new competitor to the 757 with Rolls engines !). >http://public.wsj.com/sn/y/SB998325251353892099.html

‘and Russia (some new competitor to the 757 with Rolls engines !).’ Probably the TU-204??

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>(There are only two options for Mobil 1here — >either 0W40 or %w50.) >(For cost concern, I would like to switch into mineral based oil. The >price for 4 liters of Mobil 1 5W50 is about US$50!)

It’s been many years since I last was in Hong Kong—as I remember, it was nice and cool compared to Bangkok at that time of year<g>. I’d just go ahead and use the Mobil 1 0W-40, change the filter at 6 months and the oil once a year (or find someone who can test the oil—probably good for longer). Absolutely no harm in changing to non-synthetic, though.. Di

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>>Now that I have been using syn for 140,000KM (87,000 miles) since it >was new, would there be any bad effect if I switch to mineral oil now? >Well, it will run hotter in warm weather, start harder in cold weather, the >internal wear will increase, you won’t have the additional protection in case >of something bad (like broken oil pump, low coolant, etc). >Other than that, drain the synthetic and put in the non-synthetic. >Dick in Falls Church

Hi Dick, Thanks for you input and advice. FYI, I am living in Hongkong, China. The winter is very mild. Even in the midst of winter right now, the average temperature in the last few weeks was around 20C (68F). And the summer average is around 30C (86F) here. I have been using Mobil 1 5w50 fully synthetic oil for the last few years for the car. (There are only two options for Mobil 1here — either 0W40 or %w50.) (For cost concern, I would like to switch into mineral based oil. The price for 4 liters of Mobil 1 5W50 is about US$50!) As long as minerial based oil would do no harm to my old engine, I won’t mind switch it in my next oil change. Dan

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>Now that I have been using syn for 140,000KM (87,000 miles) since it >was new, would there be any bad effect if I switch to mineral oil now?

Well, it will run hotter in warm weather, start harder in cold weather, the internal wear will increase, you won’t have the additional protection in case of something bad (like broken oil pump, low coolant, etc). Other than that, drain the synthetic and put in the non-synthetic. Dick in Falls Church

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Can I switch from full synthetic motor oil to mineral based oil after long time use of syn for last five yrs? I understand that it is not advised to do the reverse. If an engine is having mineral oil throughtout its lifetime of use, sludge would be built in and sealed some rings. If syn oil is used thereafter, the extra cleaning power of syn oil would break down the sludge and thus the engine would start to leak. Now that I have been using syn for 140,000KM (87,000 miles) since it was new, would there be any bad effect if I switch to mineral oil now? (I change oil religiously at 5,000KM or 3,000 miles interval.) Thanks in advance.

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    Sometimes microprocessors get "confused" after small line surges.   Try unplugging the unit for about 10 minutes and then plugging it back in again. This usually clears it’s mind and will function again.  If not, junk it. You have exhausted its normal life after 15-16 years of use.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Idea: Reset the clock. > Press Reset. > Press "clock". > Enter the time. > Press Clock. > Press Reset > — > This Message is guaranteed environmentally friendly > Manufactured with 10% post consumer HTML > Meets all EPA regulations for clean air > Using only naturally occuring fibers > Use this Message  with confidence!! >> We had a power outage with a couple of power flickers.  Now > the MW >> won’t work.  The interior lights come on, but the Leds and > control >> panel are not active.  I checked the main fuse which is ok. > Any >> ideas? >> The unit is 15 -16 years old and was from JC Pennys.  It was > about mid >> range of the line.  Is a unit this old worth taking to the > shop if >> necessary for repair or should I just chuck it and go for a > new one? >> Thanks >Mike: I have a mid/lrge size w.wave, probably 8 to 10 years old, > on the >bench now. To fix it I need a at least one part that will cost > $50 (used) >and at least $100 (new). I had also scrapped another damaged one > hoping to >get the needed part from it but no luck. This is one that was > given to me >to fix for my own use so my labour $ cost  is zero. >If I was in the electronics business I would figure the repair, > including >labour and miscellaneous items etc. would cost a customer around > $150, >maybe more. The place I occasionally buy appliance parts tell me > "they >have a bunch of old microwaves out back". >I can tell why! It just isn’t worth the customer getting them > fixed. >Last night at the supermarket I looked at somewhat smaller 1000 > watt >microwaves selling for $100 plus 15% Sales Tax. i.e. $115 > dollars for a >brand new unit, with a two year warranty, IT SAYS! Made in China > btw. >Looked OK, several features including delay timing up to 12 > hours.. >That $100 is not out of line; one can get microwaves now of > various sizes >anywhere from $88 to $250, plus 15% Sales Tax. >I don’t know what UK microwaves cost now, I priced some in a > small >supermarket in Farnborough in May; around 100 quid I think? >Suggestion: Take yours to a ‘repairs only’ outlet that gives > free >estimates; you are more likely to get a good estimate from > someone who >wants the repair work as opposed to selling you a new one. A > sales outlet >might? inflate the repair cost in order to sell a new one? >On the other hand with an older unit any repair outlet is taking > a chance >on fixing it and giving any kind of warranty on the repair work? > If the >repair cost is more than, say, 40% to 50% of a new one, ditch > the old and >buy new! >Two cents (thats about 0.8 pence) from here. >Terry S. >PS. We have a total of five (5) microwaves! Four (4) in a school > cafeteria >and one (1) at home. Oh, and the one I was discussing above. So > six (6) if >I bother to complete fixing it which for 50 bucks now that I > know what is >wrong is probably wort while.

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I, too had a JC Penny Nuker.  I bought it over 10 years ago when JC was getting out of the appliance business. It died. I called around, trying to find a service center that even knew that JC used to -carry- Nukers.  No luck; endless chasing thru voice mail systems. I broke down and went to Best Buy.  I think the new one cost $150. The old one was about $450.  The new one has a turntable. The old one is still down in the garage; I -hate- junking something just because no one wants to repair them. Someone mentioned an ‘obvious’ fuse.  I think I’ll open it up and see if I can find one.  Maybe I really have -2- microwaves!  (: –Paul E Musselman – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >We had a power outage with a couple of power flickers.  Now the MW >won’t work.  The interior lights come on, but the Leds and control >panel are not active.  I checked the main fuse which is ok.  Any >ideas? >The unit is 15 -16 years old and was from JC Pennys.  It was about mid >range of the line.  Is a unit this old worth taking to the shop if >necessary for repair or should I just chuck it and go for a new one? >Thanks

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i just bought an 1100 watt microwave from Target for $89 and that was not even on sale. has all the bells and whistles too. have seen 700watt units with just a timer for $59 not on sale.

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Mike, It’s toast. I had a Penneys (by RCA, I think) older than that the panel went out on. I think it was just old age. When I inquired about parts I was told ‘no longer available’. Our new one has a turntable, temp probe & blah blah and we’ve had it a few years. Get the newer features and enjoy. Ken

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When my microwave died I found that a Buss type fuse had blown.  The fuse location was obvious after the cover was removed.   Electronics parts store had the replacement for ca. $2.00.  There was something special about the fuse capacity. R – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We had a power outage with a couple of power flickers.  Now the MW > won’t work.  The interior lights come on, but the Leds and control > panel are not active.  I checked the main fuse which is ok.  Any > ideas? >Try unplugging it for a few hours. Other than that look for a glass fuse, >possibly PCB mounted, about 1.25" x 0.25" diameter, for just the control. >Maybe on the primary of a small transformer. >Best regards,

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We had a power outage with a couple of power flickers.  Now the MW > won’t work.  The interior lights come on, but the Leds and control > panel are not active.  I checked the main fuse which is ok. Any > ideas? > The unit is 15 -16 years old and was from JC Pennys.  It was about mid > range of the line.  Is a unit this old worth taking to the shop if > necessary for repair or should I just chuck it and go for a new one? > Thanks >Mike: I have a mid/lrge size w.wave, probably 8 to 10 years old, on the >bench now. To fix it I need a at least one part that will cost $50 (used) >and at least $100 (new). I had also scrapped another damaged one hoping to >get the needed part from it but no luck. This is one that was given to me >to fix for my own use so my labour $ cost  is zero. >If I was in the electronics business I would figure the repair, including >labour and miscellaneous items etc. would cost a customer around $150, >maybe more. The place I occasionally buy appliance parts tell me "they >have a bunch of old microwaves out back". >I can tell why! It just isn’t worth the customer getting them fixed. >Last night at the supermarket I looked at somewhat smaller 1000 watt >microwaves selling for $100 plus 15% Sales Tax. i.e. $115 dollars for a >brand new unit, with a two year warranty, IT SAYS! Made in China btw. >Looked OK, several features including delay timing up to 12 hours.. >That $100 is not out of line; one can get microwaves now of various sizes >anywhere from $88 to $250, plus 15% Sales Tax. >I don’t know what UK microwaves cost now, I priced some in a small >supermarket in Farnborough in May; around 100 quid I think? >Suggestion: Take yours to a ‘repairs only’ outlet that gives free >estimates; you are more likely to get a good estimate from someone who >wants the repair work as opposed to selling you a new one. A sales outlet >might? inflate the repair cost in order to sell a new one? >On the other hand with an older unit any repair outlet is taking a chance >on fixing it and giving any kind of warranty on the repair work? If the >repair cost is more than, say, 40% to 50% of a new one, ditch the old and >buy new! >Two cents (thats about 0.8 pence) from here. >Terry S. >PS. We have a total of five (5) microwaves! Four (4) in a school cafeteria >and one (1) at home. Oh, and the one I was discussing above. So six (6) if >I bother to complete fixing it which for 50 bucks now that I know what is >wrong is probably wort while.

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> We had a power outage with a couple of power flickers.  Now the MW > won’t work.  The interior lights come on, but the Leds and control > panel are not active.  I checked the main fuse which is ok.  Any > ideas?

Try unplugging it for a few hours. Other than that look for a glass fuse, possibly PCB mounted, about 1.25" x 0.25" diameter, for just the control. Maybe on the primary of a small transformer. Best regards, — Spehro Pefhany –"it’s the network…"            "The Journey is the reward" Embedded software/hardware/analog  Info for designers:  http://www.speff.com Contributions invited->The AVR-gcc FAQ is at: http://www.BlueCollarLinux.com

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> We had a power outage with a couple of power flickers.  Now the MW > won’t work.  The interior lights come on, but the Leds and control > panel are not active.  I checked the main fuse which is ok.  Any > ideas? > The unit is 15 -16 years old and was from JC Pennys.  It was about mid > range of the line.  Is a unit this old worth taking to the shop if > necessary for repair or should I just chuck it and go for a new one? > Thanks

Mike: I have a mid/lrge size w.wave, probably 8 to 10 years old, on the bench now. To fix it I need a at least one part that will cost $50 (used) and at least $100 (new). I had also scrapped another damaged one hoping to get the needed part from it but no luck. This is one that was given to me to fix for my own use so my labour $ cost  is zero. If I was in the electronics business I would figure the repair, including labour and miscellaneous items etc. would cost a customer around $150, maybe more. The place I occasionally buy appliance parts tell me "they have a bunch of old microwaves out back". I can tell why! It just isn’t worth the customer getting them fixed. Last night at the supermarket I looked at somewhat smaller 1000 watt microwaves selling for $100 plus 15% Sales Tax. i.e. $115 dollars for a brand new unit, with a two year warranty, IT SAYS! Made in China btw. Looked OK, several features including delay timing up to 12 hours.. That $100 is not out of line; one can get microwaves now of various sizes anywhere from $88 to $250, plus 15% Sales Tax. I don’t know what UK microwaves cost now, I priced some in a small supermarket in Farnborough in May; around 100 quid I think? Suggestion: Take yours to a ‘repairs only’ outlet that gives free estimates; you are more likely to get a good estimate from someone who wants the repair work as opposed to selling you a new one. A sales outlet might? inflate the repair cost in order to sell a new one? On the other hand with an older unit any repair outlet is taking a chance on fixing it and giving any kind of warranty on the repair work? If the repair cost is more than, say, 40% to 50% of a new one, ditch the old and buy new! Two cents (thats about 0.8 pence) from here. Terry S. PS. We have a total of five (5) microwaves! Four (4) in a school cafeteria and one (1) at home. Oh, and the one I was discussing above. So six (6) if I bother to complete fixing it which for 50 bucks now that I know what is wrong is probably wort while.

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We had a power outage with a couple of power flickers.  Now the MW won’t work.  The interior lights come on, but the Leds and control panel are not active.  I checked the main fuse which is ok.  Any ideas? The unit is 15 -16 years old and was from JC Pennys.  It was about mid range of the line.  Is a unit this old worth taking to the shop if necessary for repair or should I just chuck it and go for a new one? Thanks

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> We had a power outage with a couple of power flickers.  Now the MW > won’t work.  The interior lights come on, but the Leds and control > panel are not active.  I checked the main fuse which is ok.  Any > ideas? > The unit is 15 -16 years old and was from JC Pennys.  It was about mid > range of the line.  Is a unit this old worth taking to the shop if > necessary for repair or should I just chuck it and go for a new one?

Unplug it and leave it unplugged for 15 minutes or so.  While it’s unplugged, plug a toaster into the same outlet and make sure it works OK.  If the microwave doesn’t come back to life after being unplugged, it’s probably cheaper to toss it unless it’s a really fancy one.

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Today I am more embarassed than ever to be a citizen of the united states. Though I am excited about the future of politic in this country, because if any of us manage to survive the next couple of weeks, we can look forward to the demise of the republican party. —–yttrx

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>Today I am more embarassed than ever to be a citizen of the >united states.

The keyword being "than ever". I’m constantly embarassed, this is just worse. >Though I am excited about the future of politic in this country, >because if any of us manage to survive the next couple of weeks, >we can look forward to the demise of the republican party.

I think we should also get rid of the concept of "representatives"…. since they seem to prefer pushing their agendas over their constituants. blah. ho ho ho. Shawn?GOP….er…SPC *"Is that a subincision in your Pocket, or are you just glad to see me?"* "In clandestine clinics fugitive technicians experimented with test-tube babies and cuttings" William Burroughs

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> Today I am more embarassed than ever to be a citizen of the > united states. > Though I am excited about the future of politic in this country, > because if any of us manage to survive the next couple of weeks, > we can look forward to the demise of the republican party. > —–yttrx

Please explain why you’re embarrassed to be a US citizen…   — | NoRtHtRoN a.k.a. Eli Katzenmeyer                | | Remove the ".drinks.too.much" to send me e-mail.|

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:> :> Today I am more embarassed than ever to be a citizen of the :> united states. :> :> Though I am excited about the future of politic in this country, :> because if any of us manage to survive the next couple of weeks, :> we can look forward to the demise of the republican party. :> :> —–yttrx : Please explain why you’re embarrassed to be a US citizen…   To even ask exempts you from explanation. —–yttrx

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Thanks for your time.  I would have expected such a reply from the almighty yttrx.   — | NoRtHtRoN a.k.a. Eli Katzenmeyer                | | Remove the ".drinks.too.much" to send me e-mail.|

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> Please explain why you’re embarrassed to be a US citizen…

 Operation Wag the Dog anyone? Froggie http://members.tripod.com/~rypper my .sig file is currently on vacation

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>> : Please explain why you’re embarrassed to be a US citizen… > To even ask exempts you from explanation. >Thanks for your time.  I would have expected such a reply from the >almighty yttrx.  

*** I would have expected a much more vitriolic and scathing reply. He let you off lightly. Sigh a sigh of relief. I’d prefer seeing you bait him. Draw fire. Come on. Please? – k e i t h  a l e x a n d e r   www.modernamerican.com a.  p.  p     n.  y.  c. – e n d   o f   t r a n s m i s s i o n –

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> > Please explain why you’re embarrassed to be a US citizen… >  Operation Wag the Dog anyone? > Froggie > http://members.tripod.com/~rypper > my .sig file is currently on vacation

Am I the only one that doesn’t think that Clinton planned this? I mean, why would he want to postpone the impeachment procedings? Either way he’s gonna have to deal with it. I would think he’d want to get it over with as fast as possible.  I honestly don’t care about the impeachment crap.  I want him to stay in office.  The fact that he fucked around with an intern has nothing to do with his presidency.  It never should have been brought to the worlds attention in the first place.  I’m no Poli Sci major or anything, so my opinion comes from little to no knowledge of politics.  What I do know though, is that I feel Clinton was doing a good job as president, and would have continued to do a good job had this bullshit not come up.   Just my 3 cents.  Fuck Ken Starr. Fuck Republicans. Eli — | NoRtHtRoN a.k.a. Eli Katzenmeyer                | | Remove the ".drinks.too.much" to send me e-mail.|

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:> :> :> :> Today I am more embarassed than ever to be a citizen of the :> :> united states. :> :> :> :> Though I am excited about the future of politic in this country, :> :> because if any of us manage to survive the next couple of weeks, :> :> we can look forward to the demise of the republican party. :> :> :> :> —–yttrx :> :> : Please explain why you’re embarrassed to be a US citizen… :> :> To even ask exempts you from explanation. :> :> —–yttrx : Thanks for your time.  I would have expected such a reply from the : almighty yttrx.   It was a much shorter version of the following: 1. If you actually know why I typed what I typed, but asked your question anyway, you are clearly trying to lure me into a political discussion; both the details and the point of which I’m afraid I am not willing to endure. 2. If you do not know why I typed what I typed, and asked your question innocently, then you are clearly severely lacking in information and knowledge of a few very specific events rooted in partisan politics within the united states.  I shall not take the time nor the energy to educate you, as this is something that you should really be doing for yourself. Either way, you get no explanation, no discussion, and no further replies to yours on the subject. —–yttrx p.s. Wow, that Bandler fellow was really on the mark.

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> It was a much shorter version of the following: > 1. If you actually know why I typed what I typed, but asked your > question anyway, you are clearly trying to lure me into a political > discussion; both the details and the point of which I’m afraid > I am not willing to endure.

Not trying to lure, just curious which thing in particular that caused you to be so embarrassed "today."  As Shawn Porter has posted, as Americans, we have numerous reasons to be embarrassed, not just from the stuff that has been happening in the last year.   > 2. If you do not know why I typed what I typed, and asked your > question innocently, then you are clearly severely lacking in > information and knowledge of a few very specific events rooted > in partisan politics within the united states.  I shall not take > the time nor the energy to educate you, as this is something that > you should really be doing for yourself.

I am no expert on politics, this I admit.  I do do my best to keep informed on current topics relating to the goings on of our country. > Either way, you get no explanation, no discussion, and no > further replies to yours on the subject.

You are entitled not to respond to me at all.   > —–yttrx > p.s. Wow, that Bandler fellow was really on the mark.

– | NoRtHtRoN a.k.a. Eli Katzenmeyer                | | Remove the ".drinks.too.much" to send me e-mail.|

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>.  I want him to stay in office.  The >fact that he fucked around with an intern has nothing to do with >his presidency.

*** No. The fact he waffled on gays in the military, first time non violent drug offenders, education… the list goes on. Get him out asap. – k e i t h  a l e x a n d e r   www.modernamerican.com a.  p.  p     n.  y.  c. – e n d   o f   t r a n s m i s s i o n –

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>know though, is that I feel Clinton was doing a good job as president, >and would have continued to do a good job had this bullshit not come up. >Just my 3 cents.  Fuck Ken Starr. Fuck Republicans. >Eli

Ok.. this is hugely off topic.. but anyway.. Clinton is/was not doing a good job. The reason the economy is doing well now is because of what the Bush administration did during his term. Clinton has not put a single good budget plan out YET.  Dont talk about how Clinton has done a good job…  Im not republican.. but I have at least paid attention…  Granted.. Ken Starr can go suck one, but republicans and democrats are BOTH  worthless, because they do nothing but fight and screw everything up. I could care less WHAT yo-yo they put in the presidents chair…  Theyre all gunna screw up just as bad… and only sometimes.. if we’re lucky, theyll do like, one thing right…(and oddly enough they dont get reelected because america is typically dumb as dogshit) Yeah. I just "blasphemed" america… On topic: hmm… ah screw it.. this post is toasted anyway.. –Colin "Fuck politics, Fuck America… and Fuck YOU while im at it!"

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: Operation Wag the Dog anyone? Oh, whatever. Robin — I wanna publish zines And rage against machines

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:I think we should also get rid of the concept of "representatives"…. since :they seem to prefer pushing their agendas over their constituants. Obviously.  What was that they all seemed to parrot?  "I know what the polls say the American people want, but I have to vote with my conscience (sic (e.g. political party))" :blah. Yup. Robin — I wanna publish zines And rage against machines

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:>.  I want him to stay in office.  The :>fact that he fucked around with an intern has nothing to do with :>his presidency. : *** No. The fact he waffled on gays in the military, first time : non violent drug offenders, education… the list goes : on. Get him out asap. So that we can have… Dole? Hmmm… —–yttrx

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:So that we can have… : :D ole? : :Hmmm… President Gore.  Yee-ha! Robin doesn’t think Clinton will be impeached in the Senate — I wanna publish zines And rage against machines

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>President Gore.  Yee-ha!

if ANYONE mentions the PMRC I’m gonna put on spandex and rock on. Shawn/SPC *"Is that a subincision in your Pocket, or are you just glad to see me?"* "In clandestine clinics fugitive technicians experimented with test-tube babies and cuttings" William Burroughs

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>if ANYONE mentions the PMRC I’m gonna put on spandex and rock on.

*** Tipper. Zappa. Denver. Snider. Parents Music Resource Center. P M R freeeeking CEE. WebCam, baby. – k e i t h  a l e x a n d e r   www.modernamerican.com a.  p.  p     n.  y.  c. – e n d   o f   t r a n s m i s s i o n –

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>P M R freeeeking CEE. WebCam, baby.

How did you know I meant YOU? hee he hee Shawn?SPC *"Is that a subincision in your Pocket, or are you just glad to see me?"* "In clandestine clinics fugitive technicians experimented with test-tube babies and cuttings" William Burroughs

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As an ex-poli sci major I too am completely disgusted at what is going on in Washington DC. I am not a great fan of the US Constitution (I feel the document was written by wealthy white males who wanted to protect themselves and their money and that it was never intended to be a document that would serve and protect the masses, but I digress) if they are going to stand up and talk about their Constitutional duties and try to honor these pieces of paper as if they were devinely inspired then I think we should be able to require our representatives to also take the Constitution for what it is, and not for what they want it to be. In this case impeachment was not called for by the constitution, censure is unconstitutional and the proposals that called for Clinton to admit his guilt would have violated his 5th amendment rights any way. Apparently Congress now believes they are capable of being the legislatures and judiciary, if anyone should be impeached it is the congress. The only good thing to come out of this is the rather interesting situation it seems the religious right is in. Who would have ever thought that the religious right’s most effective spokesperson would turn out to be Larry Flynt? E. George Oeser > Today I am more embarassed than ever to be a citizen of the > united states. > Though I am excited about the future of politic in this country, > because if any of us manage to survive the next couple of weeks, > we can look forward to the demise of the republican party. > —–yttrx

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> >.  I want him to stay in office.  The >fact that he fucked around with an intern has nothing to do with >his presidency. > *** No. The fact he waffled on gays in the military, first time > non violent drug offenders, education… the list goes > on. Get him out asap.

Get them all out, I hope all of this at least creates a greater awareness of thrid party candidates in this country. It is about damn time we get away from the single party system we have existed under for almost 200 years. The democrats and the republicans are different sides of the same coin. And before anybody says it I know that third party candidates could be as selfish, egotistical, and power hungry as the assholes we have in power now, but hell, isn’t it time we give some body else a chance to screw up and piss us off? E. George Oeser — Visit my online photo gallery! http://www.oeser.net/george.htm The Oeser Family Network http://www.oeser.net

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>:I think we should also get rid of the concept of "representatives"…. >since >:they seem to prefer pushing their agendas over their constituants. >Obviously.  What was that they all seemed to parrot?  "I know what the polls >say the American people want, but I have to vote with my conscience (sic >(e.g. political party))"

Forgive my jumping in here…but, On the one hand I agree that politicians should not necessarily listen to what the polls say. I don’t think we should have representatives who always do the popular thing, just to get reelected (although it appears that that’s what they all do most of the time). I think our reps should have the balls to do what’s best for the COUNTRY regardles of their own, or their constituants politcal agenda. But, I could be wrong, that’s just my opinion. Major Lacy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->:blah. >Yup. >Robin >– >I wanna publish zines >And rage against machines

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> Am I the only one that doesn’t think that Clinton planned this? > I mean, why would he want to postpone the impeachment procedings? > Either way he’s gonna have to deal with it. I would think he’d > want to get it over with as fast as possible.  I honestly don’t care > about the impeachment crap.  I want him to stay in office.  The > fact that he fucked around with an intern has nothing to do with > his presidency.  It never should have been brought to the worlds > attention in the first place.  I’m no Poli Sci major or anything, so > my opinion comes from little to no knowledge of politics.  What I do > know though, is that I feel Clinton was doing a good job as president, > and would have continued to do a good job had this bullshit not come > up. > Just my 3 cents.  Fuck Ken Starr. Fuck Republicans.

After lurking for a few years, this is the post that brings me out… The reason to try to postpone the impeachment is plain and simple. If it waits until next year, everything has to start all over again (back in the judiciary committee.) It’s not the sex, it’s the lie about it. If someone is going to lie about something as stupid as sex, are they going to lie about something as serious as national security to hide something. Did you know that Clinton gave missile technology to China and now China’s missiles can come as far as California? The whole fact that we have to ask if the military attack was a planned move against impeachment shows how much the American people trust him. Also, what may I ask makes you think he was doing a good job as President? I think he’s destroyed the office and it began the day he went into the White House. Ask yourself this: If you were a major shareholder of a corporation and Clinton was your Pres/CEO and you found out that he was doing an intern in the office that you pay for him to be in on time that you’re paying him to work, what would you do? Now, each citizen is a shareholder in the corporation of the US, what would you do to your CEO? Also, don’t forget Janet Reno told Ken Starr to investigate him (and later his affair with Monica.)                                         -Ken                                         A very proud (pierced) republican

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I know "me too" posts are shunned in here, but…  that was very well Eli PS to Keith:  This thread is almost as on-topic as my smoking one.

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I’m officially de-lurking as a political idiot, and am now stepping out of this conversation.  I shouldn’t have gotten involved in the first place. Eli — | NoRtHtRoN a.k.a. Eli Katzenmeyer                | | Remove the ".drinks.too.much" to send me e-mail.|

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Categories: Travel China

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Was wondering how much hassle would it be to 1) schedule a flight to Manila for After Xmas, 2) find a relatively inexpensive fare, 3) travel there w/o incurring jetlag (how long is the flight) 4) find a good carrier (heard PAL mean Plane Always Late) and 5) bring stuff intothe country. Thanks in advance; e-mail with any comments. Joe :-)

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> Was wondering how much hassle would it be to > 1) schedule a flight to Manila for After Xmas,

The whole month of December is very busy for travelling to Manila, although you might have better luck after Xmas than going before. > 2) find a relatively inexpensive fare,

Rates going to Manila in December is at their highest, because that’s peak travelling time for Manila. > 3) travel there w/o incurring jetlag (how long is the flight)

From LA, I took EVA’s red eye flight (2am), got to Manila around 11am, and was able to stay up until 9pm – that’s w/o incurring jetlag to me. Philippine Airline leaves at midnight from LA, and gets into Manila about 6am, that might help. > 4) find a good carrier (heard PAL mean Plane Always Late) and

When I inquired booking for last December, I asked for Northwest, EVA, and China Airlines.  The travel agent said actually my best chance would be with PAL, but I decided to try the economy deluxe on EVA instead.  Seems that PAL is not the first choice for most people. > 5) bring stuff intothe country.’

What kind of "stuff"?  There’s a big duty free right by the airport that carry appliances, candy, and other popular items people would otherwise bring back.  It’s more expensive compared to the US, but cheaper than buying in the Philippines, and you wouldn’t have to carry as much with you.  The customs will always want to open up your boxes, and you might not fit as much back in afterwards, and there are people at the curbside just waiting for an opportunity to get at your boxes. > Thanks in advance; e-mail with any comments. > Joe > :-)

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